“thinkliness” : reason to believe?

Putting your belief where your existence is.Many have thought and think they have discovered the keys to the universe, mastered the fourth dimension and ready for complete liberation from the practical….

…When it is there, we are said to feel it “in our bones,” which is usually considered to be a response to the necessities of survival. To create order, especially an intellectual order,is a particularly significant human talent, and it has been suggested that mathematics is the science of total intellectual order. Graphic or visual order, pattern, or symmetry has been defined and analyzed in terms of the invariants of various transformation groups trying to corner the unknown.¬† A mathematician, like a painter or a poet,” wrote G. H. Hardy, “is a master of pattern.” But what can one say about pattern as it occurs within mathematical discourse itself? Are mathematical theories of pattern self referring?

---Madonna and A-list pals Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher headed to Israel on Wednesday on a Kabbalah trip. The Material Girl reportedly planned to 'cleanse' the souls of her children during the pilgrimage to celebrate the Jewish New Year. She and husband Guy Ritchie, 39, will take Lourdes, 10, Rocco, seven, and 22-month-old David to a river to cast off their sins. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-481756/Madonna-meets-Israeli-president-Kabbalah-faith.html#ixzz1WehKofea

When scientists propose laws of wide generality they set forth rules of law in place of primeval chaos. When the artist draws his line, or the composer writes his measure, he separates, out of the infinitude of possible shapes and sounds, one which he sets before us as ordered, patterned, and meaningful….

Rick Salutin:Madonna’s mysticism: Kabbalah is a broad Hebrew term for every current in Jewish mysticism over a stretch of 2,500 years. It compares to, say, philosophy. Calling yourself a Kabbalist is about as informative as calling yourself a philosopher. Madonna, who played Toronto this week, has become Esther, as part of her adherence to “the” Kabbalah. The term now appears in media outlets the way “anarchism” did in the anti-globalization phase just before 9/11: widespread, vague and ill-defined….

---On the series, Who Do You Think You Are?, celebrities have the opportunity to look into their family's history and learn about their previously unknown ancestors, which is exactly what Gwyneth Paltrow was doing when she uncovered that her great-great-great-grandfather was a "master of Kabbalah!" During the program, which aired April 1st, the actress, who already studies the ancient Jewish mysticism, learned from documents that the man was "a miracle worker" who apparently saved his community from being destroyed by a fire! And, as to be expected, Gwyneth reponded to the revelation by claiming: "This is all kinda blowing my mind."---Read More:http://perezhilton.com/2011-04-01-gwyneth-paltrow-grandfather-was-a-master-of-kabbalah image:http://www.countrymusicrocks.net/category/gwyneth-paltrow


…A Toronto Star piece said its “goal” is “knowledge of the divine” via a “finely shaded approach to experiencing God who conceals and reveals himself, who is both transcendent and immanent in the world.” Something scandalous lurks here since, in the Bible, God relates to the world only through His words. He never inheres in or is part of it. That is a key division between Bible-based religions and all others. When Kabbalists speculated on immanence, they flirted with pantheistic heresy. But you get none of that from the anodyne phrase, “conceals and reveals himself,” without context. Read More:http://www.gaudiyadiscussions.com/topic_2006.html

---The aesthetic appeal of mathematics, both in passive contemplation and in actual research pursuit, has been attested by many authors. Classic and medieval authors, such as Kepler, rhapsodized over the "Divine or Golden Proportion." Poincaré asserted that the aesthetic rather than the logical is the dominant element in mathematical creativity. G. H. Hardy wrote that "The mathematician's patterns, like the painter's or the poet's, must be beautiful. . . ." The great theoretical physicist P. A. M. Dirac wrote that it is more important to have beauty in one's equations than to have them fit the experiment. Read More:http://www.fortunecity.com/emachines/e11/86/mathex4.html image:http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/07/28/erotic-madonna-tapes-for-sale-115875-21554038/

Firstly and most evidently, there is entirely too much flaky, half baked ill conceived and expressed rubbish in this domain. The actual knowledge, if ever there was any, has long ago been lost in translation, both literally and deliberately such as DaVinci’s code. Also, because very simply the true knowledge and experience is highly personal and individual, it is not meant for vulgarization.

Ironically, the secret societies further contributed to this with all their ritual, pomp and mumbo-jumbo to the point that whatever “meaning” is or may have been there is likely for the most part lost and incomprehensible. Time to get serious: That Madonna is “into” Kabbalah -numerology, geomancy- is good for her alone, if in fact she is a “believer”. What is not clear is what there actually is to “believe”. Belief in and of itself is for the most part meaningless or irrelevant, but that is an entirely different area of discussion.

---F.W. Westaway:If ultimate mathemat


truth is not discoverable by logistic, whence is its origin? Has it already an existence (as some contend) independent of us personally, something supra-sensible, already complete in itself, existing from the beginning of time, waiting to be discovered? is it of a priori origin? or is it actually created by mathematicians? Read More:http://www.archive.org/stream/craftsmanshipint032576mbp/craftsmanshipint032576mbp_djvu.txt image:http://amunix.livejournal.com/

Ray Tyler: It’s true value lies in doing one’s own thinking. Nicolas of Cusa ( 1450) believed that the true love of God is “amor Dei intellectualis” and that the intellectual act through which the divine is revealed is mathematics- the divine is to be reached through…”thinkliness” However my take: you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink; you can lead a man to reason but you cannot make him think :)

From Pascal Wager: Regardless of God’s state of existence, likely a factor of perception of knowledge i.e. faith, belief seems preferable to non-belief. The only unambiguous, non-contradictory choice, the only way with any significant payoff of benefit, is to bet on God’s existence, putting your belief where your existence is. At the very least you are affirming that you are in some way a part of God, which of course presumes you in fact exist. Whether you think or not as DesCartes put it. Pascal didn’t seem too concerned as to confirming the existence of either oneself or God for that matter. ( Ray Tyler )

ADDENDUM:

Yet really, what’s wrong with inserting another version of spirituality into this forlorn world, even if it’s a bit stupid and commercialized (“Kabbalah water from very pure springs”)? Well, calling a thing spiritual doesn’t make it so, any more than using the word Kabbalah means you’ve actually said something. At times, spirituality feels like another word for privatization: the reduction and introjection of the public or social to tiny personal size….

---Because of Einstein, we often call time the fourth dimension. Special relativity shows that time behaves surprisingly like the three spatial dimensions. The Lorenz equations show this. Length contracts as speed increases. Time expands as speed increases. Scientists have been graphing time, as if it were a length, for hundreds of years. Time never behaves exactly like a spatial dimension. You cannot go backward in time. And you normally cannot go forward at different rates. But, there are surprising parallels. For some purposes, it is handy to call time a fourth dimension. For other purposes, it is not.--- Read More:http://www.jimloy.com/physics/4d.htm image:http://famouspeoplenews.wordpress.com/page/21/?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=119&format=feed&type=rss?72fb0740

…Once, after a class in Jerusalem, I asked Gershom Scholem, the giant of modern Kabbalah studies, why he did it, what was its “relevance.” He scowled, then barked, “Because it interests me. That is all! It has no relevance.” He pretty much tossed me out. I guess he smelled a rat. Read More:http://www.gaudiyadiscussions.com/topic_2006.html

Read More:http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pascal-wager/

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